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Celtic and Germanic Heathen Dialogue
For those whose ethnic identity dates back to the Norse-Gaels--how… 
7th-Oct-2006 08:07 pm
For those whose ethnic identity dates back to the Norse-Gaels--how many of you find that historical pagan syncretism lacking everywhere on the Islands, that you honor parts of the culture that doesn't make up the majority of your recon tradition by seperate rituals?
8th-Oct-2006 05:59 pm (UTC) - bad sorta heathenish thang
I am a bad heathen. Though I've had Norse Deities show up before, I've never pursued a relationship with Them. They just seemed like They were checking up on me, making my acquaintance. Or maybe Their intent was the same as the Celtic Deities who've pinged me, but *I* just didn't respond as strongly emotionally.

So, yeah, I haven't done anything specific for Them in ritual or religious terms. Then again, I don't have any recent Norse ancestors that I know anything about. I just assume they're mixed in there because of all the Scottish and Irish connections, and I figure that's where my blonde hair and blue eyes at least partially come from. I have had what I believe to have been past-life memories of a Norse culture, though, and an intense dream where I joined a Heathen group.

btw, what's up with that icon? who is that? he looks dead.
8th-Oct-2006 06:05 pm (UTC) - Re: bad sorta heathenish thang
That is Ezra Pound just before he died, after he was released from a mental institution for what he said during World War 2 .
9th-Oct-2006 12:31 am (UTC)
Well, I can only answer this in a simple negative..I absolutely would not try to do Norse ritual, I honor Them with the Gaelic God/desses. While there is little to work with as actual pre-Christian syncretisms, I find that the similarities between the cultures makes this very natural to do. I also feel comfortable with a lot of the post-Christian material anyway, the stuff that is pretty liminal between being poly and monotheistic. So, it's just not an issue for me. I also just do not believe that it is fitting, that it is the way it would have been done, to separate the two. But I've gone into that before here. I do feel, actually, and I may have not been strong on this, that it is dishonorable to do so...because it is about culture, doing "Celtic" this week and "Norse" next week insults both and is a habit of non-culture based NeoPagans.
9th-Oct-2006 10:05 pm (UTC)
To be honest, I've never managed any sort of 'mystical' connection to the Celtic deities, though I've attended a very few 'ecumenical' rituals in which they were invoked/evoked by their followers while I invoked/evoked my own... usually in a context in which one could reasonably assume nobody would really mind, since we were also invoking/evoking Ancestors (several of whom were Christian) and more modern Heroes (several of whom aren't speaking to each other). So for my own personal devotional practices, I tend to focus on the Gods that 'talk back', so to speak... I don't have much of a relationship with Tyr, for example, even though He's Nordic. When I think of a Thunderer, though, it's always Thor rather than Taranis.

Oddly enough, though, I've had more luck 'connecting' at some level with my Scottish cultural heritage in some ways than I have with my Swedish - turns out I look pretty good in a kilt, and I really can't stand lutefisk. Go figure.
9th-Oct-2006 10:28 pm (UTC)
Lukefish is GROSS.
11th-Dec-2006 08:06 pm (UTC)
hmm my past heritage being very British Isle...and then married to an Asatru... I find myself mixing both cultures with ease. I see the pantheons as just different aspects of one another. I am not say that they are the same, however; it makes sense to me. If the Norse came over and 'invaded' the coasts of my heatlands, I am sure that some mixing of the beliefs did occur, however I have no concrete evidence on this matter. Our home is full of both Celtic and Norse traditions...in fact my husband, lovingly calls me his Druish-Asatru... grin. I have an affienty for both belief systems...and in fact have sat at Friggs knee, learning from her lap. In turn I have also had many a conversations with Manannán mac Lir and with Eir and a handful of other godd/ess'. I tend to honour both sides of our family... there is such diversity within beliefs and yet a concrete connection for my family. Our children can choose how they wish, as long as it doesn't harm anyone (including themselves). Why try to force young ones to grow into a square if they are a circle, you know.

I don't know if this answered your question. I tried, though if you have any questions...I am up for finding answers...it helps me learn also.
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